Mike's commentary · The "Unknown" Reality, Chapter 702

The "Introduction" and "Chapter Highlights" for this chapter were summarized by an AI editor based on the main text below; they are not things Mike said during the lecture. The main text comes from Mike's commentary, and the blockquotes are Seth's original words (the portions Mike read aloud).

Introduction

This chapter discusses objective science, consciousness, and electron spin. Seth points out that instruments are useful only at the material level, and that objective science hits a wall because it does not acknowledge that all things have consciousness. He talks about how ancient civilizations carried out consciousness travel through spiritual physics, and how sophisticated machines cannot elevate consciousness. In the latter half, he uses electron spin to explain that time can flow forward, backward, inward, and outward, and that electrons spin in multiple directions simultaneously; the notes emphasize that only by traveling inward, through projection of consciousness, can one break through material limitations.

Key Points of This Chapter

• Instruments are only useful when measuring the level of reality in which they exist; when studying deeper realities, they mislead.
• Objective science does not acknowledge that all things have consciousness; its direction is opposite to that of inner science.
• Ancient civilizations used spiritual physics for consciousness travel, mapping out data on atoms, molecules, and outer space.
• Electron spin determines the sequence of time; electrons spin in multiple directions simultaneously, and time can flow inward, outward, forward, and backward, and unevenly.
• Exquisite little machines cannot elevate consciousness; machine-induced altered states of consciousness may be used for manipulation.

Main Text

Today we continue sharing Session 702 of Volume 1 of The "Unknown" Reality. The title of this session is "Objective Science and a Loving Technology, Consciousness, Subatomic Particles, and the Spin of the Electron." This session began on Monday, June 10, 1974, at 9:19 p.m.

Rob's Notes: The Television Interview and the Publishing Background of the Seth Material

Last Tuesday afternoon, Jane and Rob accepted an interview with a New York City television station. The station also stayed to film some footage of Jane in her ESP class that evening. Seth came through during the class, showing his most jovial and elemental sides; Jane also sang Sumari songs.

Rob said that since the Seth material was published in 1970, Jane had occasionally spoken for Seth on television and radio, and the responses were all very good. But because of work pressure and their conservative attitude toward personal fame, they gave up many opportunities. Jane especially opposed organizations and churches. Having come out of the Catholic Church, she knew the harm of organizations and churches. She was very much like Krishnamurti, who disbanded his own foundation and organization entirely.¹ The advantage of doing this was that she could concentrate her energy on transmitting the Seth material; the disadvantage was that the Seth material lacked sufficient promotional force. Actually, the correct approach would have been to have a public relations and marketing team working with them.

Their limitation lay in the fact that they still cared quite a bit about other people's evaluations and had not jumped out of the ego's frame. This was also one of the reasons the Seth material did not create a huge wave of enthusiasm in their era.

The Circulation Data of the Seth Material and Rob's Later Decision

Actually, I would like to publish the Seth material in mainland China, because right now it seems to be published only in Taiwan. And I am currently in contact with their publisher about copyright issues, but I am not sure who actually holds the copyright right now, or whether mainland Chinese publishers are willing to publish the Seth material. But I do want to make efforts and attempts in this direction. I want to work together with everyone to re-translate and publish this excellent material in the form of official books, in a simplified Chinese edition, or, while Teacher Wang Jiqing is still alive, to help Teacher Wang Jiqing obtain the relevant authorization. Can we, with a completely new face, carry out the publication of a simplified Chinese edition of the Seth material once again?

I checked, and since its publication, the Seth material has now been translated into 15 languages worldwide, with cumulative circulation exceeding 8 million copies.² For spiritual books of this kind, which are difficult to read, this is already very remarkable. During Rob's lifetime, including before his death, he made a major decision to make all of his early sessions, private sessions, and ESP class sessions public. By that time, he no longer cared so much about the ego, and he agreed to publish seven volumes of private sessions, nine full volumes of the original early session manuscripts starting from Session 1, and four volumes of ESP class books. This shows that he had already given up his attachment to the ego.

Instruments Are Only Useful Within the Reality Level Where They Exist

Today's content mainly discusses science.

Your use of instruments, and your preconceived notion that instruments can serve as tools for investigating the greater nature of reality, will ultimately teach you an important lesson.

That is, it will give you a lesson, give you a harsh education, and make you keep going until you hit a wall and have to turn back.

Only when measuring the level of reality in which you yourselves exist are instruments useful.

Instruments are useful only when measuring the physical world in which they themselves exist; beyond that, they are useless. Physicists later also discovered that the instruments we use for research are effective only within the environment of the Earth, within a specific range of space and time. Once you go into outer space, once you leave the environment of the Earth, many laws have to be changed anew, and measurements also become inaccurate. Because according to Einstein's theory of relativity,³ space and time are one, and they are curved. In an environment where space-time is curved, how can instruments measure accurately?

Instruments help you interpret the universe in a horizontal manner, to understand the universe from a flat angle. But when investigating the deeper reality within the universe, inside the universe, and behind the universe, these instruments are not only useless, but misleading.

This is not to say that instruments are useless; it is only pointing out their inherent limitations.

The Dead End of Objective Science

So-called objective science has given you a picture, a model, which in its own way is quite useful, and which is useful for interpretation and operation according to its own manner. For example, it has enabled you to travel to the moon, which is still useful, and it has been helpful in your current temporary intellectual and technological progress. However, within the framework of objective science as it currently exists, even technology will hit a wall.

Science has now walked into a dead end. If you have some understanding of science, you will find that our technology has already found it very difficult to achieve greater accomplishments, and it cannot change with each passing day the way it did over the past three or four hundred years. Current progress is only a matter of making things more refined and more detailed on the foundation laid by predecessors; it is not an earth-shaking change. For example, automobiles still use the internal combustion engine mechanism from more than a hundred years ago. Electric vehicles are only a change in the energy source; the model has not fundamentally changed. The same is true of airplanes. A couple of days ago I saw in the news that United Airlines ordered 15 supersonic aircraft that fly at Mach 1.7,⁴ reducing the flight from New York to Tokyo from 12 hours to 6 hours. But this kind of supersonic aircraft already existed many years ago, such as the Concorde passenger jet produced by Aérospatiale and BAC. The current progress is only a reduction in noise and an improvement in comfort. During supersonic flight there is a sonic boom, and the noise inside the aircraft is extremely loud; it does not come from the engines, but is produced after exceeding the speed of sound. If a fighter jet flies at supersonic speed, you can hear a very loud sound even on the ground. When we were children, we thought that by now there should be small personal aircraft; right now only flying car companies are making models. There are many examples of technology hitting a wall; both classical physics and quantum physics have encountered many problems they cannot solve.

As a method, objective science is also only temporarily useful.

If you treat it only as a tool for dealing with the physical world, that is acceptable, but it is only temporarily useful. Because the higher scientific research goes, the more easily it runs into the deeper inner reality, yet the methods and attitudes of science must set the inner reality aside and refuse to acknowledge it. Science sees the surface, but does not look downward; it sees atoms, atomic nuclei, and electrons, but still views them at the material level. At the quantum level, traditional physical theories fail. Quantum mechanics can temporarily solve problems, but quantum mechanics fundamentally opposes classical mechanics. The problem is stuck at the point where it refuses to acknowledge the inner dimension.

No Science Alone Can Sustain a Person's Life

No separate objective science and splendid technology can sustain the life of a single person.

If a person has already decided to leave the flesh, or cannot find joy in daily life and no longer wants to live, technology cannot keep him alive. The core issue is that science does not acknowledge that all things have consciousness. Although quantum mechanics talks about superstring theory, in which strings are the most basic units of material composition, a string is a segment of energy vibrating at superluminal speed. The essence of matter is energy, and energy is consciousness. Quantum mechanics has already touched the door, but it does not dare to admit it. When you do not acknowledge that all things have consciousness, for example, when you do not acknowledge that a kitten has consciousness, observing the cat's behavior becomes incomprehensible. If elementary particles also have no consciousness, then they cannot be explained. These quantum states are multidimensional, possibly ten-dimensional or eleven-dimensional; they are both multidimensional and conscious, which is consistent with spirituality, but physicists have seen it and perceived it, yet they still do not dare to admit it.

A Loving Technology and the Inner Order

A loving technology would always add to the quality of experience and to the deepening of spirituality.

Science and technology must be combined with love. Love means doing technology with the heart, not just looking with the eyes. The eyes themselves exist in the physical world, composed of atoms and molecules, and can only see things that match their own properties. Human consciousness and the heart can transcend material limitations. Scientists absolutely refuse to use the heart in research; they insist on using microscopes, instruments, and experiments, and only acknowledge what they can see.

The inner order of existence would be isomorphic with true science.

When you observe with the heart, you will find that the inner order walks together with true science. The external phenomena we observe are camouflage, surface appearance.

The true scientist is not afraid to identify with the reality he has chosen to study.

If you do not even identify with the object of your research, how can you study it? Only through identification can you understand its essence. Standing outside, you can never understand the essence of a thing. Only when you are that thing can you say that you understand its essence. If a scientist does not identify with the object of his research as being one with himself, he cannot obtain its essence.

Hidden Masters Among the People, and Identification with the Earth and Humanity

There are many unofficial scientists who, in that respect, are the true scientists. They are not known to this age. In outer terms, many of them are ordinary people with other occupations. The greater discoveries are often made by amateurs.

Amateurs are relatively less constrained by official dogma and can make breakthrough progress. Established fields have already drawn out the direction of your advance, but that direction may be wrong. Amateurs, however, flow freely into the fields that naturally interest them, so the saying that hidden masters exist among the people is true.

Without an identification with the land, the earth, and the seasons, all of your technology will not help you understand the earth, or use it effectively. Without an identification with the whole of humanity, no technology can save humanity. Unless man also identifies himself with other species that have shared the world, no technology will ever help him understand his experience.

Ancient Chinese civilization did this very well. Laozi said, "Man follows the earth, the earth follows heaven,"⁵ meaning that man first follows the earth, believing that man came from the earth, as in the story of Nüwa molding humans from clay.⁶ Therefore, by understanding the earth, they developed the 24 solar terms and grasped the timing of planting. Likewise, only by identifying with the whole of humanity can one develop a technology capable of saving humanity. Identification with the unity of all things is the prerequisite, not a slogan or feel-good platitude.

I am speaking in very practical terms.

He is not proclaiming an ideal like "a community with a shared future for mankind"; this is a practical point of view.

Ingenious Little Machines Cannot Elevate Consciousness

Ingenious little machines ultimately cannot teach you anything about the extent of your consciousness. Even when you use them, such as biofeedback techniques, you are setting up for yourself a fixed, dead pattern of programming, and walking away from yourself. Only when these little machines show you that such changes are inherently possible are they useful.

You could clearly turn inward to find yourself, yet you insist on getting a machine to study consciousness by analyzing brain waves. Is that not walking farther and farther away? Biofeedback, I guess, is a newly invented machine in biology that can show the feedback mechanisms of organisms under stimulation, possibly by observing brain waves. Using this to elevate consciousness is setting up a fixed pattern and walking away from yourself.

Unless the ideas behind objective science are changed, machine-induced altered states of consciousness will almost certainly be used to manipulate consciousness rather than to release it.

Brain-computer interface research is a typical example. We do not want to understand deeper levels of consciousness; instead, we want to control external things through the brain. In the future, if brain-computer interfaces connect to search engines, knowledge could be downloaded directly into the brain. Seth pointed out long ago that humans always want to manipulate consciousness, and this direction will not end well.

The Consciousness Prison in Black Mirror⁷

There is an American series called Black Mirror. In one season, there is a short episode about a future with no prisons: a helmet is placed on the criminal's head, and a virtual prison is set up inside the brain. Only ten minutes pass outside, but for the person involved, ten years have already passed.⁸ If you have not seen it, you can look it up; it is very shocking. Seth clearly pointed out that human technology is racing down this road, using consciousness to invent a machine to control itself, which is terrifying and absurd.

The Spiritual Physics of Ancient Civilizations

On your planet, there have been civilizations that understood planetary movements and the positions of the stars as well as you do. They even predicted later changes of the earth. They had already transcended space and time, yet they did not have your kind of technology. What they used was a kind of spiritual physics.

Before you, there were people who traveled to the moon. Later, the United States stopped going to the moon, and there were many strange claims, such as that there is a massive alien base on the far side of the moon, and that the moon itself is hollow. The size of the moon is also a mystery; according to normal calculations, it should not have become a satellite of the Earth, and its orbital period and rotation period are the same, so it always shows only one face to the Earth. The distance between the moon and the sun is such that, seen from the Earth, the moon can completely block out the sun, creating a total solar eclipse. These coincidences are so extraordinary as to be unbelievable.

Before you, there were also those who traveled to the moon, and brought back the same kind of scientific and pertinent data.

Other civilizations understood the origin of the solar system better than we do. Some civilizations did not need spaceships.

Those who were highly trained combined the abilities of dream artists, scientists, and spiritual physicists, and cooperated in travels not only through time, but through space.

Ancient maps, some drawn thousands or hundreds of years ago, were all drawn from an altitude of two hundred miles or more above the Earth.⁹ At that time, humans did not have the ability to navigate and survey the globe; how did they do it? They went up through consciousness, not by spaceship. These were elaborate works produced upon returning from such travels.

Ancient Sketches of Atoms and Molecules

In your ancient times, there were sketches of atoms and molecules. They were drawn by trained people after learning the art of identifying with such phenomena.

They could see the structures of molecules and atoms, but not through the physical eyes; they saw through consciousness, which required training.

In the archives of many antique shops, there are hidden some very important things that have not been recognized by you, because you have not thought of their proper correlations. And you have not yet progressed enough to understand that material.

In ancient murals and rock paintings, there are some things we have not recognized, which may all be structures of atoms and molecules. We have not yet progressed to that level.

The Direction of Science Runs Counter to the Truth

The particular impetus and direction of your own science has been directly opposite to the development of this inner science. So much so that every step taken in that direction so far has, to some degree, led you astray into another direction.

Humans want to manipulate nature and control the universe, and although they keep hitting walls everywhere, this direction is completely opposite to inner science. Not only has it failed to approach the truth, it has actually moved farther and farther away.

However, all sciences are founded upon the desire for knowledge. Therefore, even on the most divergent paths, there are meeting points, and you are precisely at such a meeting point.

Although the direction was wrong, at least it exercised the muscles. Teacher Seth is very humorous, using the analogy that you are desperately running upward on a downward-moving escalator; the direction is wrong, but you have exercised your body. Humanity is now at a point of divergence, and the technology it has achieved is not entirely worthless. As long as the direction is adjusted, it can also play a role.

Physicists Are Surpassing Themselves

Your own science has led you to its logical conclusions, but that is not enough. Some people suspect that this method and attitude have an inherent disadvantage. Physicists are surpassing themselves, to the point where even their own instruments cannot follow.

For many physicists, admitting that time and space do not exist is a collapse. They are told that the things they have struggled for decades over were wrong from the root. A true scientist can suddenly turn around in consciousness and realize that he has taken the wrong path. Current top-level physics research can no longer be verified in the laboratory. Traditional physics requires experimental verification, and these scientists are desperately trying to verify, spending enormous amounts of money and manpower. Many theories in quantum mechanics cannot be verified; they can only be indirectly verified through phenomena, indirectly and then indirectly again, observing a phenomenon after ten transformations. This is already meaningless. Einstein did not take them far enough either; he only brought them to special relativity, and he did not complete the unified field theory. He did not accept quantum mechanics and was a firm opponent. At the 1927 founding conference of quantum mechanics in Stockholm,¹⁰ there were many opposing opinions. But later it was found that quantum mechanics is effective, only that it cannot be directly proven in the laboratory; at the application level it is indirectly proven. These verifications are meaningless.

When you depart from a reality, you can observe it from the outside, observe its laws and phenomena, but you can never obtain its essence and its heart. Its living heart.

They are all consciousness; atomic particles all have consciousness, but scientists do not admit it, treating the objects of research as dead. If you tell him that a piece of metal has consciousness, he absolutely cannot accept it even if it kills him.

The Behavior of Electrons and the Blueprint of Reality

The behavior of the electron, for example, will escape your technological knowledge, even now. And frankly, what you need is a faster method. Pause. The blueprint of reality is hidden beneath even the activity of electrons. And the nature of this world lies far beneath the activity of electrons.

Humans have many applications of electrons; electronic devices and chips are all based on electrons, but we do not understand their essence. Because electrons are conscious and operate multidimensionally. You have not even thoroughly studied the motion of electrons.

As long as you think in terms of particles, including subatomic particles, you are basically going astray.

You can barely think of an atom as a particle, which is acceptable at the application level. But when you also treat particles smaller than atoms as particles, you have gone completely in the wrong direction. Then is it a wave? Quantum mechanics has wave-particle duality, but Seth says that thinking in terms of waves is equally wrong. He implies the Buddhist theory of non-duality: it is neither a particle nor a wave. Then what exactly is it? It is consciousness. It can manifest in particle form or in the form of energy waves.

The concept of interrelated fields, of course, comes closer to the truth.

Field theory and unified field theory come closer to the truth than wave-particle duality, but they are still not the truth. One of the reasons Einstein spent the latter half of his life trying to develop a unified field theory without success was that he did not acknowledge that the bottom layer of the material world is spiritual, is consciousness. If he did not acknowledge the premise, how could he possibly approach the truth?

In all of these instances, you have ignored the reality of consciousness. You have ignored its gestalt formations and its materializations.

Gestalt means that when small units of consciousness combine into larger organizations of consciousness, quantitative change produces qualitative change. Materialization means becoming physical, becoming expressed, becoming diversified, becoming individualized. Consciousness wants to try as many forms, shapes, and organizations as possible. This is a basic property of consciousness. Its property is somewhat like energy.

You have been placing a definite barrier before your own knowledge. Until you become aware of the consciousness inherent behind all visible and invisible materializations.

Only by understanding that all things have consciousness can you begin to approach the truth of the world.

Jane's Vocabulary and Official Scientific Vocabulary

Finally, Jane's vocabulary is not the official scientific vocabulary. Seth said that when transmitting this material, Jane did not use official terminology, because there were some terms she did not know how to say, and she had no professional background in this area.

Electron Spin and the Direction of Time

This session involves a lot of specialized vocabulary. Seth himself says he does not use scientific terminology, because those terms are more limiting. He deliberately had Ruburt avoid official vocabulary, because we need to step outside those so-called scientific, objective terms -- those things are wrong to begin with. That is also why he chose Ruburt to transmit the material. If you had picked a physicist to transmit it, that would have been a disaster: a physicist would have to reinterpret the Seth material using the physics knowledge he already has, and then the Seth material would become just an extension and expansion of current physics, and the fundamental direction would be wrong.

Seth says he uses the simplest possible language, in your terms.

He begins talking about electrons, using electrons to help us understand certain principles. First he touches on electron spin. Let me give everyone a quick look here at what spin actually is. This is a concept from the modern scientific context -- and this context itself has its limitations and errors, but even so, see how much of it you can understand.

Spin is an intrinsic property of particles, meaning a property the particle itself carries. Its mathematical rules are similar to angular momentum in classical mechanics, and it therefore produces a magnetic field. Although it is sometimes compared to rotation in classical mechanics -- for example, the rotation of a planet -- in essence it is fundamentally different. You cannot imagine a sphere rotating and think of that as electron spin; these are two completely different things. Rotation in the classical sense is an object rotating around its center of mass; it has a core -- the Earth rotates around a polar axis passing through its center. This subject is extremely complicated, involving the history of the theory's development, spin quantum numbers, the spin of subatomic particles, the spin of atoms and molecules, spin and statistics, spin direction, superspin multiplets, spin projection particles, spin and magnetic moment, and so on. Classical physics' interpretations of spin are themselves not correct, so no matter how much you say about them, it is of no use.

To put it simply, returning to Seth's perspective: classical mechanics holds that all particles in the world are spinning. Before spin was discovered, people thought particles were motionless, fixed in place, like stationary little balls. That is actually not the case. Every ball is spinning rapidly, somewhat like a top. A top carries its own force, which is called angular momentum; it has momentum. For example, if you spin a large iron ball, any small object that comes near it will be flung away by it, knocked aside by it. It appears to have no energy, but internally it actually contains a great deal of energy. All the planets in the universe are rotating; through their revolution, rotation, and motion around other bodies, they maintain stability and do not fall. Many people ask why they do not fall -- "falling" is a way of speaking from your standpoint on Earth; in the universe, it simply maintains itself this way. This subject involves classical physics, Newtonian mechanics, universal gravitation, the spacetime field, and Einstein's unified theory of spacetime, so we will not go into it further.

If you follow the scientists' angle, you will end up going in that direction -- that direction seems reasonable and makes a great deal of sense, and so many brilliant people around the world have followed it in their research. But at its root, it has problems.

Seth says that electron spin, from your standpoint, determines the sequence of time. So according to this way of putting it, would a reverse spin mean that time is flowing backward? Yes. There are many such things that you cannot observe.

Why can they not be observed? Because we are within a reality space that has a forward flow of time. If there existed in this world something running in reverse time, you should not be able to see it -- you can only see things moving from the present forward, so you cannot observe it. In a movie like Tenet, where forward time and reverse time exist simultaneously, with one pair of people walking forward and another pair walking backward, that is only a way of presenting it to you that can be understood from the spacetime perspective of our three-dimensional world. In fact, you cannot observe it: if matter running in reverse time existed, its material properties would already be different from ours, and within forward time you would be unable to observe the motion of negative time.

There are many things that are extremely difficult to explain. Because the structure of your language itself presupposes certain assumptions. What I said just now is itself not rigorous and does not hold up under scrutiny; do not take it and nitpick it -- this subject has already gone beyond the limits of language. So you still have to admire the director Nolan; he was able to depict time reversal through film, and that already took a great deal of thought and effort. But that is only a cinematic depiction; you absolutely must not think that is how it actually is. If you think that way, you are wrong. What is it actually like? It is truly very difficult to describe clearly in words.

However, electrons spin in many directions at once. This is our current understanding -- science has now discovered that electrons spin in only two directions, and this was obtained through calculation. Do you think the two directions are left spin and right spin? No. In scientists' terms, electrons have up spin and down spin; the question is whether it is up spin or down spin, not a matter of left spin and right spin. This is getting more and more complicated; let us stop here at an appropriate point, because going further would be pointless.

According to Seth, electrons have many directions of spin, far more than two. But we cannot see or perceive the other directions, because we are within a spacetime that has a forward flow of time. Our sensory systems, our perceptual systems, our instruments and equipment all exist within this spacetime, so how could you observe something that is completely different from our own existence? Therefore the other spin directions of electrons cannot be observed; they can only be discussed as a theory.

This is very difficult to explain. Every part of it involves highly complex knowledge of quantum mechanics, and quantum mechanics itself still has its problems. If I say too much about quantum mechanics, you will be drawn into it and start thinking that quantum mechanics makes so much sense, that M-theory is so amazing, that this is the truth of the universe -- I do not want you to be drawn into that, so I do not want to say too much. I will only say that they have touched the edge of a phenomenon, and there is still a great distance from the essence.

There is an electromagnetic momentum that is thereby achieved and maintained. It is a kind of motion, something that operates and maintains the stability of its own integrity.

Actually, for any charged particle, when it spins it will inevitably produce an electromagnetic field -- this is basic physics, something you may have learned in middle school. The electron itself carries a negative charge; as long as something charged spins, there will certainly be momentum and a magnetic field produced. So Seth says, rather than calling it a spin, it is better to call it a magnetic field. Scientists have in fact already discovered this point -- saying it is a spin is not as apt as saying it is a certain kind of magnetic field.

Let me put it in plain language -- everything I say below is colloquial and does not hold up to scientific scrutiny. Scientists discovered these tiny changes in magnetic fields and did not understand why they occurred, so they imagined that electron spin in different directions produced these fields, and then based on that assumption they calculated electron spin. But the theory of electron spin has a story from its very first proposal: Pauli (the one who proposed the Pauli exclusion principle¹¹) had two students who first proposed the theory of electron spin, and Pauli rejected them from the start. Pauli said it was impossible -- if you calculate according to your theory, assuming the electron has a diameter, even if it is extremely small it is still a little ball, and then the speed at the equator of that little ball would already exceed the speed of light. And in our world, not exceeding the speed of light is an iron law; no one can break it. So he scolded the two students, saying it was nonsense, and the two students did not dare make a sound and suppressed the theory.

But less than a year later, two other Dutch physicists, without the authority figure Pauli standing in their way, published the theory of electron spin.¹² Let us not first ask whether the theory is correct -- without the restriction of authority, once it was published, it set off a wave of acceptance in the physics community: it explained many previously unexplainable problems in the laws of electron motion. Then around 1927, Pauli, on this basis, accepted electron spin, but he changed the approach, saying it was not that kind of spin, and proposed a spin matrix.¹³ In this way, he gave himself a way to save face. Of course, what I am saying is all ordinary people's chat -- Pauli made enormous contributions and was of great importance in quantum physics; he was absolutely a godlike figure. His spin matrix solved many problems, and he pointed out that spin can occur in any direction, and through the wave functions of the spin matrix one can derive the electron's spin state, quantum numbers, and so on.

We can understand it this way: at the bottom layer of matter, when you reach the level below the atom, it already begins to approach the strings in superstring theory, and it already approaches what Seth calls EE units -- the smallest units of matter, the limit of electromagnetic energy units. Why does Seth use "electromagnetic energy units" as the smallest units of matter? Do these electromagnetic energy units correspond to the strings in string theory -- which are themselves a form of electromagnetic energy? Yes, they do correspond. And the strings themselves, in scientific derivation, are also maintained in dimensions above ten dimensions.

At this point, to put it simply: particles themselves have consciousness, and changes in their consciousness can be understood as changes in a magnetic field. It is like brain waves: when your thoughts change, your brain waves also change -- why can brain waves be measured? Because the magnetic field within them undergoes subtle changes, and these changes in the magnetic field can be captured by precise instruments. If I put it this way, you can understand: changes in consciousness cause changes in electromagnetism. What is the essence? The essence is that all things have consciousness, and when that consciousness changes, it causes changes in the magnetic field. But humanity currently does not acknowledge the existence of consciousness; it can only observe changes in the magnetic field, and cannot explain clearly why they change, so it uses spin theory as an explanation.

For those problems that cannot be explained, such as the superluminal problem, scientists say: at the subatomic level -- electrons, protons, neutrons, quarks -- at this level, these particles can all be regarded as points; they have no diameter. Stop talking about the problem of their having a diameter, so you cannot use the rotation of a ball in the material world to imagine spin. You see, this is very interesting: abstracted into a point in mathematics, a mathematical point has no diameter; but in the material world, any point you draw has a diameter, no matter how small the point is. This is a very beautiful concept.

To put it simply, everyone, do not take this seriously: this smallest particle, assuming it is a particle, has consciousness; it is actually this kind of electromagnetic energy unit. Its electromagnetic changes cannot be detected by us humans, so we use electron spin to explain them, which amounts to a forced explanation.

Yet all portions of these rotations are not equal. Yet within that inequality there is an equality.

Seth is again using quantum mechanics to find a direction. According to theory, rotation must certainly be equal -- when it spins on its own, at least each revolution should be the same; you cannot have one revolution fast and the next slow; that would be chaos. But Seth says it is precisely unequal. If you told a physicist that an electron is spinning at near light speed, and moreover unequally, one revolution fast and the next slow -- then he would completely lose his mind; I would not even know how to continue thinking about it. But Seth says it is unequal, and yet within that there is an equality. Is this not a supremely philosophical topic? Let us not undertake this brain-burning exploration; if we explore further, I think the scientists will go mad, and we will go mad too.

Time Inward and Outward

In your terms, time is newly spinning backward, just as surely as it newly spins into the future.

According to this way of putting it, there is a kind of time that can turn backward and happen into the past, just as surely as our present time moves steadily into the future. And at the same time it also spins outward as well as inward, into all possibilities. Besides forward and backward, time can also go inward and outward—time can curl inward, and it can extend outward. Somewhere around Session 680 or so this question seems to have been touched on: besides the forward and backward that we understand, time also has an inward and an outward thrust. And the most amazing thing is that when time goes inward, outward, forward, and backward, its rate of flow is not uniform. But it seems that among them there is still some kind of uniformity—this is something that really cannot be understood through human language.

You can imagine time going inward as a kind of slowing down or stopping, and going outward as speeding up. Whether inward time stops or outward time speeds up, whether forward is a positive flow or backward is a reverse flow, when it has different rates of flow—fast and slow, forward and backward—then you cannot think about this problem from the angle of our present space and time. But under the premise that time is not uniform and not constant in speed, there is still that kind of uniform existence—this is the place that cannot be explained through language.

At 10:34, the telephone rang, and it rang for a full two minutes. They had forgotten to switch the phone to silent. Rob was very irritated, because they had reached the most crucial point—the question humanity cares about most, the truest place in this universe—and then the phone came, ringing for a full two minutes. At the very moment they least wanted to be disturbed, they were disturbed.

Seth said, but in all directions of this rotation there are unequal thrusts.

What does unequal thrusts mean? The speed of time forward and backward—forward has many kinds of speed, backward has many kinds of speed; inward has many kinds of speed, outward also has many kinds of speed. He used the word "thrust" to represent it—you see, time is also related to force, and this has already gone beyond the limits of human language and the limits of human understanding. How can you think of thrust in connection with time? Is time related to the spin of electrons, to their angular momentum, to their electromagnetic fields? It is related to all of them.

Yet by concentrating upon certain portions of this rotation, its evenness can be perceived.

When you concentrate on certain portions of this rotation, it is even and can be perceived; as for the portions that are not even, you cannot know them. For example, the time that we humans presently experience—is it even for you? Is the rate of flow the same? It does not go fast one moment and slow the next; it is a stable rate of flow. And this kind of time phenomenon is what you can observe. In other words, when the spin of electrons manifests the evenness of time, and moreover faces only toward the future in this one direction—when this one even, future-facing possibility appears—only then can humans observe it; when the spin of electrons is uneven and faces different directions, humans cannot observe it. Can you understand this?

So we can only observe those portions that conform to the evenness of our human time. The uneven places, humans at present cannot be aware of. Then you can understand why in our world time is just this single, unique kind of state—flowing in only one direction, and flowing at only one speed.

The telephone kept ringing, so he let Jane rest for a while, resting until 10:55. Then he gave Jane some personal material, and at 11:30 said good night.

It is a pity that this passage is very important and classic, but Seth did not expand on it and explain it clearly. I think one reason is that it was limited by language, and Seth could not explain it clearly either; second, Jane's scientific background in this area really was too limited—not just ordinarily limited. For a woman poet, being able to explain it to this degree is already remarkable—if you wanted more from her, it could not be done. And Seth also did not want to elaborate further on the basis of humanity's existing theories, and to leap beyond humanity's existing theories would again go beyond the limits of language, so let us just leave it at that.

About Jane's Dreams

Seth said that Jane's rich, vivid dream serials were still continuing, and she had been keeping detailed records. I talked about some of her dreams in Appendix 11. But what is important is that Jane's dream-related experiences included some psychic developments that were brand new to her and very exciting -- she developed some new psychic abilities. If you are interested, you can look at Appendix 11.

Note 1: Traveling Inward

Below are the notes. The first note: once again, I have excerpted Seth's words from Session 45 of The Early Sessions. Seth said:

Any investigation of the basic inner universe—which is the only real universe—must be made as much as possible from a point outside your own distortions. To get outside your own universe, you must travel inward. Your so-called scientific, so-called objective experiments will go on forever and ever, but these experiments will only probe deeper and deeper into another camouflage universe with instruments made of camouflage physical matter. It is true that the subconscious also has its own distortive elements, but these are far easier to avoid than the tons of distortive camouflage atmosphere that you cannot help but attach to with your scientific experiments.

Seth here gives a simple summary: your basic inner universe is the only real universe; the outer universe is not. If you want to understand the real universe, you can only go inward; if you want to reduce the distortions a little, you must stand outside this distorted universe to look at it. If you want to travel outside your own universe, you must travel inward within your own universe, travel toward your inner world. In other words, if you want to travel to the stars, to other alien galaxies, you can only do so through inner means—through telepathy or through time-space travel such as interstellar crossing. You cannot do it by means of spaceships.

Your so-called scientific objective experiments will always exist, and there is nothing wrong with these experiments themselves; it is just that they are pointed in the wrong direction. Your experimental instruments, your experiments, and even you human experimenters yourselves are all products of this camouflage world. Using a camouflage tool to try to explore the truth of this camouflage world—that cannot be attained. A person inside a game who wants to know how the code behind the game is written can never do it—you can only see what the game shows you. You are a character in the game, and you want to know how the game's code is written; you cannot do it. Within this game, you will never find the code. You can only jump outside the game—the person playing the game, if he has studied computer programming and has that ability, can find the source code. But how can the character inside the game see the source code? That is what this means.

Seth goes on to say that the subconscious is not without distortions either; it also has its own distortive elements. But compared with the tons and tons of data and theories from the camouflage world that you obtain through scientific experiments, these are far easier to avoid and much closer to the truth—even though they are also distorted.

Note 2: Space Travel

The second note, in Session 40 on April 1, 1964, in The Early Sessions, Volume 1. Seth said some things about how space travel would pose challenges to our civilization. Seth said:

As far as space travel is concerned, you are severely hampered by the time element involved.

Why? According to our human level of technology, time is something that cannot be transcended. Traveling to a place takes us decades, centuries, or even tens of thousands of years, yet the human lifespan is limited -- at most one hundred twenty-five years. How are you going to explore the universe? The universe is so vast and boundless that even traveling at the speed of light would not be enough, let alone the fact that in the physical world you cannot exceed the speed of light. Even if one day you could travel at the speed of light, the diameter of the Milky Way is one hundred thousand light-years, so light itself would take one hundred thousand years to cross the galaxy. And the speed of our current human spacecraft is not even on the same order of magnitude as the speed of light; it can only reach a few hundredths of the speed of light -- so time becomes the most severe obstacle to space travel. In your terms, it would take far too much time to get where you want to go.

Therefore scientists began seeking easier methods, and even now they are being forced to begin considering the possibility of telepathy as a method of communication. And they will be forced to go further and further down this path.

Because that path leads nowhere, scientists have no choice but to try other directions, such as time-space traversal and telepathy. You fly to a place one hundred light-years away, and the signal alone takes one hundred years to travel back; then you send another command back, and two hundred years have passed. So humanity will be forced to use telepathic means of communication, forced to try exploring outer space through the traversal of consciousness.

It is quite possible that when you intended to have a space adventure, you would instead find that you had traveled to another plane, but at first you would not know the difference.

It is quite possible that you intended to have a space adventure, but accidentally traveled to another plane -- that is, another space-time -- without knowing the difference. You might have traveled to another version of Earth. You used the method of conscious projection to enter some planet in Andromeda, but the planet you projected to was not the one in your own space-time, but one in some parallel space-time. It does not matter, because in consciousness travel one is already traveling through different levels. When you return, the Earth you come back to may no longer be the original one -- although it all looks the same, the people around you, your colleagues, your company all seem the same, but there are also many differences. Do not imagine another version of a parallel world as something bizarre and fantastical; another version may very well be very close to your own version. You think you have arrived on some planet, but you may still be on Earth, just a different version of Earth.

Then he continued, twenty years later in Session 45:

Your present theories of an expanding universe are wrong.

We think the universe came from the Big Bang, and since it was an explosion, the universe keeps expanding -- this is the conclusion we have now drawn from observing the redshift phenomenon. He said this view is wrong.

When your scientists discover that space as you know it is a warp, and when travel from one so-called galaxy to another is accomplished by discarding the camouflage physical body, then space travel will be abandoned.

First, the Big Bang theory is wrong, and the idea that space-time keeps expanding is also wrong. Then you will discover that space-time is warped. When one day you gain the ability to go from one point to another through space-time warping -- what we call time-space traversal -- and travel to a very distant galaxy by means of wormholes, you will discover that space travel is actually unnecessary. You can go there directly through conscious projection.

The so-called vehicle of space travel is the mobility of spirit and psyche -- accomplished through psychic energy transformation. Here "psychic" refers to spirituality, with spiritual energy transformation at its core. Seth also discussed this specifically elsewhere: if you want to make a time-space journey with consciousness, first project your consciousness over there, and then in that place use your spiritual energy to reconstruct your physical body within that projected space. How do you reconstruct it? Is not your present physical body created by your consciousness? It is just that you do not know how it is created -- it is not that you create it consciously. If one day you possess the ability to integrate very well with your inner self, and you know that your body is created by your inner world, then once you master this technique, wherever your consciousness goes, you can create an identical physical body there.

In many spiritual practices this is called "emitting the yang spirit." Emitting the yin spirit means your spiritual body goes out, but this spiritual body is generally invisible to others, unless the other person is a highly advanced practitioner -- this is called emitting the yin spirit, and many practitioners talk about this. What is emitting the yang spirit? It means that after you go out, you appear in a physical form, and others can see you vividly appear right in front of them and chat with them. This is very interesting. In another early session, Seth specifically discussed human travel to other planets: if humanity wants to explore outer space and the universe, this is the only way -- there is no other way whatsoever. Warp drives, faster-than-light travel -- none of that is realistic.

Seth said that in Session 688 he discussed material on the backward, forward, inward, and outward movement between time and units of consciousness. In 1925, physicists began to talk about the spin of the electron¹⁴, which was not long after they began to consider the rotation among the parts that make up the atomic nucleus itself. And this spin is not the orbital movement of an electron around a nucleus; rather, it is more like the electromagnetic field of the electron -- if you understand it as a tiny material particle spinning around, then you have misunderstood it. Time reversal and the symmetry of particles, the physical and quantum theoretical doctrines of the equivalence and relativity of time and space. However, in the material Rob collected on electron spin, he could not find any discussion by Seth of the following concepts -- which did not exist in that era but now all exist -- namely, the reversal of the electron, and the time reversal that accompanies it. This is something scientists have not yet discovered; indeed, it has not been discovered. But the idea that electrons spin in many directions simultaneously has long existed, though Rob and Jane's knowledge of physics may not have been sufficient.

Moreover, in that era, they had to go through the library -- go to the library to look up a book, and then use the book's references to search further. Not like now, when you can use Google or Wikipedia, and with one search all knowledge is available. In the 1960s and 1970s, the only way to search for information was to go to the library, imagine which books might be relevant based on their titles, pull those books out, and then find what you wanted from that pile of books. Especially for a painter and a liberal arts student, this was enormously difficult -- he did not even know which books to look in.

Such concepts related to electron spin might perhaps be discussed in works on physics, but they are quite unfamiliar to me. Or they are beyond my limited understanding; indeed, they are beyond his understanding. But I am also certain that, generally speaking, they were equally unknown to them.

For a poet and a painter to write to this extent is already remarkable; you certainly cannot expect him to also understand electron spin -- that would be asking too much.

Rob's Rebuttal

Rob said, on the contrary, I would say that the Seth material after the break came out of his own intuitive, mystical understanding of the interweaving of time and space.

He said, from another, opposite angle, this very thing can prove that the Seth material does not come from Jane. Because ever since the Seth material came out, there has been a voice saying: this is just another personality of Jane's popping out. She is a person with multiple personalities, with one personality called Seth, and her own ego personality talking to itself there -- there is no such thing as Seth at all. This is a point that people who attack the Seth material often use.

Rob made a very powerful rebuttal here: as far as I know, Jane simply does not understand these things. I don't understand them, and she understands them even less -- how could a poet understand these things? Since she doesn't understand them, how could she be talking to herself about these things? He used this to shut those people up: this shows that the Seth material is not spoken by Jane; it must have been transmitted by Seth.

As for the content of this session, I would very much like more physicists who study quantum mechanics to see it -- whether in China or abroad, as long as they are people doing research in this area. I truly hope they will read it carefully. For them, this is highly subversive material, the kind they could never encounter in their ordinary work. It would bring a leap forward, a spanning development to their research, allowing them to recognize anew a new direction in quantum mechanics within theoretical physics research. Rather than just continuing to research along the directions given by predecessors, they should try a different direction -- who knows, they might win a Nobel Prize, or bring about a tremendous change to human civilization. That is one thought of mine.

Teacher Xiyu's Commentary

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注释与核实

1. This claim could not be verified. ↩

2. This claim could not be verified. ↩

3. Source: Encyclopaedia Britannica, "Relativity | Definition, Equations, & Facts" (https://www.britannica.com/science/relativity) ↩

4. Source: Boom Supersonic, "United Adding Supersonic Speeds with New Agreement to Buy Aircraft from Boom Supersonic," 2021 (https://boomsupersonic.com/press-release/united-airlines-agreement) ↩

5. Source: Laozi, "Tao Te Ching" (https://ctext.org/dao-de-jing/zh) ↩

6. Source: Civil Service Bureau, Government of the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region, "Tuan Ren Ji" (https://www.csb.gov.hk/hkgcsb/ol/news/no95/html/sc/p1.html) ↩

7. Source: Wikipedia, "Black Mirror" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Mirror) ↩

8. According to Mike's original words: "There is an American series called Black Mirror; in one season there was a short film about a future without prisons, where criminals were fitted with helmets and a virtual prison was set up in their brains. Only ten minutes passed outside, but for the person involved ten years had passed." Upon verification, it should be: "This plot is not from Black Mirror, but from the American series The Outer Limits, Season 2, Episode 22, 'The Sentence': after the criminal is connected to the machine, twenty minutes in reality is equivalent to twenty years in the virtual prison." (Source: Wikipedia, "List of The Outer Limits (1995 TV series) episodes," https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Outer_Limits_(1995_TV_series)_episodes) ↩

9. This claim could not be verified. ↩

10. According to Mike's original words: "The 1927 founding conference of quantum mechanics in Stockholm"; upon verification, it should be: "The Fifth Solvay Physics Conference, which discussed the new quantum theory in 1927, was held in Brussels, Belgium, not Stockholm; the conference took place from October 24 to 29." (Source: Solvay International Institute of Physics, "Electrons et photons: rapports et discussions du cinquième Conseil de physique tenu à Bruxelles du 24 au 29 octobre 1927," https://difusion.ulb.ac.be/vufind/Record/ULB-DIPOT%3Aoai%3Adipot.ulb.ac.be%3A2013/234806/Details) ↩

11. According to Mike's original words: "Pauli exclusion principle"; upon verification, it should be: "The correct name is the 'Pauli exclusion principle,' proposed by physicist Wolfgang Pauli." (Source: Institute of High Energy Physics, Chinese Academy of Sciences, "Electron Spin," https://www.ihep.cas.cn/kxcb/kpcg/gnwl/gnwl_lzwl/gnwl_lzwl_fz/201009/t20100909_2957631.html) ↩

12. Source: Samuel Goudsmit, "Goudsmit on the Discovery of Electron Spin," 1971 (https://www.lorentz.leidenuniv.nl/history/spin/goudsmit.html) ↩

13. This claim could not be verified. ↩

14. Source: Ernie Tretkoff, "January 1925: Wolfgang Pauli announces the exclusion principle," 2007 (https://www.aps.org/apsnews/2007/01/wolfgang-pauli-announces-exclusion-principle) ↩